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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Ven 3 Avr 2009 - 12:42

Hi, :mdr:

I made this tread for general questions, problems and all things i would like to show,...



So i have a question to begin with:

I now have MMM V3 + Neu/Castle 2200 on 4S Flightpower 4500 30C in the RC8T.

I would really like something with higher voltage and keep its speed the same as now.

Was thinking 6S with maybe Flightpowers new 3350 cells, and Tekin RX8 1350Kv.




The numbers,

LiPo Voltage:
22.2 V
LiPo Config:
6s
Cont Discharge:
28C 93.8A
Burst Discharge:
56C 187.6A
LiPo Height:
39.1 mm
LiPo Length:
153.0 mm
LiPo Width:
45.2 mm


Also I would like to say CBRacing needs T-shirt or something. Very Happy
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Message par Christophe le Ven 3 Avr 2009 - 13:01

Hi Michiel,
yes T shirt and stickers is a good idea, I'll work on that in the future Wink.
For the Lipo I can advice you to wait for the new Generation 3 from Hypérion, they will be great at the best price with CBRacing ! I'll be able to order the pack you need 4S 5S or 6S as you want.
I'll order the Tekin combos as sson as possible, I hope to place my first order during april.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Ven 3 Avr 2009 - 14:20

I told you they had something new coming didn't i?

I felt it. as you once said over e-mail i am a medium. whoistheboss

For that suspension issue i'll see if i can make proper photo's.
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Ven 3 Avr 2009 - 16:47

Sure you are medium !! kneu_supair

The new Hypérion's Lipo will be great products Wink.

I wait for your pictures, I'll try to help you.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Ven 3 Avr 2009 - 17:07

Tried with my cellphone but failed.

Ordered new toe plates from Germany this week.

From Reckward Tuning, should improve strenght of the car.

They didn't deliver yet tough. :scratch:
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 7 Avr 2009 - 18:56

More on the batteries,

Stay on 4S? =>

Hyperion G3 VX - 4S 5500mAh (35C)





  • Weight: 588g
  • Dimensions: 163 x 47.5 x 42.5 mm
  • G3 Technology Lipo
  • Capacity and Resistance Matched Cells
  • 5C Speed Charging OK
  • 4 x Longer Cycle Life
  • picture shows 3S version

Or go 6S, the new cells are shorter and thicker. so with 6s packs height is dramatic (marked red)

at 6s i also need new motors because the 2200CC/Neu's will kill every part in my truggy.

I dont want to buy new motors really, it seems a waste.

anyway, how much would i gain from a 6s setup vs my 4s?


Hyperion G3 VX - 4S 5500mAh (35C)
Weight: 673g, Dimensions: 142 x 46 x 57 mm, G3 Technology Lipo, Capacity and Resistance Matched Cells, 5C Speed Charging OK, 4 x Longer Cycle Life


On another note, for 1/8th scale cars how does a track of 45m by 30m sound?
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Mer 8 Avr 2009 - 9:10

Hello,
as I told you a track of 45x30 it seems very small for an 1/8th :kneupkpas: or you will have to use a low power set up to stay on the track.

I would advice you to stay with 4S for the weight, but if you want BIG power and if the weight is not a problem you could try with 6S, you will probably gain runtime.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 8 Avr 2009 - 10:58

Wait, i asked about 30 by 20, not 45 by 30? still too small you reckon? maybe i'm demented.:geek:

For the weight, i like how it is now at 4.5~Kg for my complete truggy ready to go.

Power, it has plenty now too.
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Message par Christophe le Mer 8 Avr 2009 - 12:39

Oh sorry I didn't read right pascompris 45x30 it seems short for a fast car but it's probably possible, you will tell us Wink.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 8 Avr 2009 - 14:45

If i make my own track i will, haha. :mdr3:
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 14 Avr 2009 - 9:44

http://67.199.85.166/main/productdetails.php?text=80902

Well, seems like i'll be making a buggy too. Twisted Evil

Did you get my mail Christophe?

I would like to get the 4s 5500 lipo's, dont know when exactly.

but maybe you have ordered those already?

They do 192.5amps :affraid:

5C charge, so 27.5amps :affraid:


was wondering how on earth can you charge that much, biggest Hyperion only does 20amps?

can you link two of them together?

otherwise it seems very useless to have the 5c charge rating?
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Mar 14 Avr 2009 - 10:28



Well, seems like i'll be making a buggy too. Twisted Evil

Did you get my mail Christophe?

I would like to get the 4s 5500 lipo's, dont know when exactly.

but maybe you have ordered those already?

They do 192.5amps :affraid:

5C charge, so 27.5amps :affraid:


was wondering how on earth can you charge that much, biggest Hyperion only does 20amps?

can you link two of them together?

otherwise it seems very useless to have the 5c charge rating?[/quote]
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Mar 14 Avr 2009 - 10:32

Hello Michiel,
don't worry I don't forget you, I'm late and I have a lot of e mails to reply .. Neutral
I'll order the new Hypérion's Lipo as soon as possible, no date for the moment Wink.
Charging at 2C is quite fast I find it's enough, I always charge at 6A I'm not in a hurry Wink.
These new packs are supposed to be charged at maximum in 12 minutes at 5C, it's very fast !!
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 14 Avr 2009 - 11:35

Charging in 12 minutes isnt usefull, motor needs more time to cool.:mdr:


Oh yes, i blew the front bearing on one of my CC/Neu2200.

i can only find the size it has from Boca Bearings, is 5x16x5.

Maybe you can get this size?

i think its a bit early for it to go south on me, maybe 20 hours orso. doublekc

Still a few million rotations, hahaha
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Mar 14 Avr 2009 - 13:17

I'll ask castle creations to have some bearings for spare parts Wink.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 14 Avr 2009 - 15:28

Ran my RC8T again, i had this 14T pinion on it but not hardened.

result of my 6 minute run: pinion for trash bin.

only 6min because it gets too warm, must figure out how to keep it cool. not that it cuts out or anything but i hate it when my stuff is too warm.

I have 2 2200 motor so now i'm runnig the other one, wich wasnt used yet, i must say it seems to be a better one.

Better sound, more power.

Maybe the older one is not balanced so good.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Ven 17 Avr 2009 - 13:53

Ok, i have some more info gathered.

45m or so with a 2200Kv on 4s isn't fun, its too much power.

i'm picking up a load of RC8T parts tonight.

i made a small order too. pinions and plugs. Very Happy
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Sam 18 Avr 2009 - 10:55

Hi Michiel,
thanks for your order Wink, I sent you an PM for my bak datas Smile.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 21 Avr 2009 - 19:53

Hi Christophe,

You have any idea when you can get Hyperion gen3 packs?

I NEED IT SOON. Very Happy bounce

I'm feeling my flightpower is not strong enough to push my truggy around.

Also, your opinion please on doing 6 runs with 1 pack in 1 day? too much?
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Message par Christophe le Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 13:31

Hi,
I hope to recept the new G3 this week, you can recharge as you want, you just need to wait for the pack to be cold when you will recharge it.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 13:56

I see.

i noticed the RC8T chassis set was sold out? its gone?
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Message par Christophe le Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 14:28

Yes this product is out of stock for the moment Wink.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 22 Avr 2009 - 16:41

Painted a body today, metallic blue.

i'll get some pics up.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Dim 26 Avr 2009 - 17:43

Bump.

How about this?




can you tell me what it would take for this to be hooked on the pc for viewing the recorded info's?

i'm confused with the Emeter and all that? :scratch:

i would put this to good use. :vivemoi:
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Re: The official Sir Slide Alot tread.

Message par Christophe le Lun 27 Avr 2009 - 12:38

Hello Michiel,
I'm currently testing the RDU with a friend and it seems it's a very good product, I will probably order some in my future orders.

You can use the RDU without teh Emeter, you just need to plug your RDU to a pc with the USB interface to copy the recorded datas in your pc.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Lun 27 Avr 2009 - 13:20

Yes, i read it again today and it found it, just need RDU and a cable, then download software from Hyperion's site.

I asume you can connect it directly inbetween lipo and speedo?

if i get a RX8 then i just solder 6mm to battery end of RDU and speedo end direct on RX8's solder posts to minimize number of solderconnection/plugs?


On another topic i need the dimension of a losi diff, from the bearing spacing and outdrive space.

can you ask one of your clients that runs a 8ight?

i know i can replace the flanged bearing with 8*16*5 ones on the losi diff.

i would like to get a smart-diff to try, but i need to be sure it'll fit.
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Message par Christophe le Lun 27 Avr 2009 - 20:10

For the Eight diff' I can't help you for the moment.

Yes the RDU is plugged between the battery pack and the ESC.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 28 Avr 2009 - 7:25

Actual vs measured motor kv’s below:

4030 buggy motors

2650 - 2664

2050 - 2120

1900 - 1930

1700 - 1780

1450- 1460

4038 Truggy motors

2250 - 2340

2000 - 2100

1700 - 1705

1550 - 1560

1350 - 1410


Dont do that again. :nonnon:

No problem, who doesn't miss now and then?

I want Truggy 1550 and 1700. I dont want any faster one's.

The fast ones dont usually like me. doublekc

i tend to pull WOT alot, so i need something that stays calm. gnaa

28000RPM is more then plenty for my skills. :mdr:
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Message par Christophe le Mar 28 Avr 2009 - 9:30

I think I'll order the following models :

4030 buggy motors

  • 2650 Kv

4038 Truggy motors


  • 2250 Kv
  • 2000 Kv


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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 28 Avr 2009 - 11:25

Dont do that again. :nonnon:

No problem, who doesn't miss now and then?

I want Truggy 1550 and 1700. I dont want any faster one's.

The fast ones dont usually like me. doublekc

i tend to pull WOT alot, so i need something that stays calm. gnaa

28000RPM is more then plenty for my skills. :mdr:
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 28 Avr 2009 - 18:12

Hi,Seriously, no 1700Kv? i need it. Sad bluur 2200Kv


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Message par Christophe le Mar 28 Avr 2009 - 18:17

Sir Slide Alot a écrit:Hi,

Now its even more messed up in here, hahahahahaaha.



Seriously, no 1700Kv? i need it. Sad bluur 2200Kv


1700 Kv for 6S?
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mar 28 Avr 2009 - 19:07

For 4S, plenty fast with correct gearing.


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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 29 Avr 2009 - 8:40

please delite.


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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 29 Avr 2009 - 8:43

delete aswell.


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Message par Christophe le Mer 29 Avr 2009 - 13:00

Hi, your power supply seems good for your 0610 Duo Wink.

I'm not sure, I think written in the manual of your charger, if you use you charger at his maximum power 10A x2 you will need a 37A power supply but in the most cases 25A is enough.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Mer 29 Avr 2009 - 13:59

Hi,

i wanted it to show the ripple and noise numbers but they where cut off with copy and paste.

I asume it'll be ok.
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Message par Christophe le Sam 2 Mai 2009 - 12:39

Hello Michiel, yes the new Tekin is very beautyful, please don't post link or picture from others online shops.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Sam 2 Mai 2009 - 13:02

Sorry, wont do it again.




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Message par Christophe le Sam 2 Mai 2009 - 14:41

No problem, thank you Smile.

IT really looks great, I love it Razz.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Sam 2 Mai 2009 - 15:06

What do you think about Losi 8-T 2.0?
I may change since it will be easier for me to get parts for Losi then Asso is.

it's a very clean truggy with their own conversion set.

How about those 1700Kv motors? i'll keep whining about that you know. lol! because i'm such :joker: i hope you get some. :king:
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Ven 8 Mai 2009 - 13:37

Home-made mudguard.

needed:
1-your brains Laughing
2-1.0mm lexan sheet big enough to cover your cars suspension arm
3-scissors, drill bit 2.5mm for 3mm tread
4- 4 screws, i used M3*6 countersunk, with countersunk washer
5- prototyping plastic, like icecream box orso


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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 11:01

I am a man of numbers so lets see:

Now 4s 5500 35C on the way kneu_supair

5.5Ah x 35C x14.8V = 2849W

if i would go to 5S:

4.2Ah x 35C x 18.5V = 2719.5W

And 6S:

3.3Ah x 35C x 22.2V = 2564.1W

Christophe, your opinion please?
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Message par Christophe le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 13:26

Hello,
in all case you will have enough power delivery but if you increase the voltage your motor will be more powerfull, the efficiency will be better and you will reduce the consumption in A.

I'll order somme 6s packs soon, you will have the choice Wink.

Don't forget to also compare the weight, power is good but good handling is better to be fast on a track.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 14:04

I would take lower Kv to match setups, 30000 RPM is the desired motorspeed.

weight of these 3 packs is very close together, no issues there.
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Message par Christophe le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 15:42

1900 Kv with 5s would be fine for a Truggy Wink.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 16:33

Yes, on a 60 meter straight i see no problem.

I'm gonna run 1700 on 4s and see if i can drive it on a 10th scale track.

its about 28 meter i think, should be alright.

i took the front stabilisator out and did "the steering mod"

i put a 46t spur on it now and dumped the center diff riser. :gni:
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Message par Christophe le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 16:36

46T on a truggy? With the big diameter wheels it increases the ratio but with a low Kv like 1700 one you should have good torque.
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Message par Sir Slide Alot le Jeu 14 Mai 2009 - 18:39

46/13 is still 15.2/1 with the 4.3 diffs. Very Happy

Losi uses 45T diffgear on the E-conversion they make.
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Message par Christophe le Ven 15 Mai 2009 - 7:30

If the crown are the same on the front and rear diffential it's right Wink, but sometimes on the Truggy you have less teeth on the pinion in the front and rear gear box - it increases the ratio, it's the case between the Kyosho MP777 and the Truggy version the STR.
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